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Sometimes wed say, Come on up. You came, you hung out, you drank a bottle of wine, you went crazy like everybody else. But that didnt last too long once they got used to it. There was always some guy who got beat up and they took the sweater and we had to go find out who took it and get it back. The next time you went to the club, theyd be there and it would be like, Oh, we had a fight with these guys last time. Search . Although the Jewish residents of East Harlem moved to other areas of NYC, they stayed in the neighborhood to sell their wares, either door to door, or via a storefront business. On any given weekend night, as you reached the 'balcony', you started the Ducky 'whistle'. If youre in my club, I take you at face value. Their turf was around Jefferson Park, 116th Avenue and Pleasant Ave. During the day wed just be hanging out, walking the streets of Brooklyn, meeting people, going to parties. One of the bullets hit Montuoro, hitting him in the aorta, killing him. They punctured his lung and he almost died. And to make it more interesting, this gang fight happened far from East Harlem it happened in the Bronx in Baldies turf at 189th Street and Belmont Ave. I never wore colors. We called ourselves the Italian Dukes. He might have been black, he might have been Puerto Rican, and then that was it, the shit started. That was East New York. There were no real initiations. In 1957, the Viceroys stabbed and killed an Enchanter. that Farmer was a member of a rival gang called "The Jesters" (It's not known whether or not Farmer was a gang member thougheven to this day). I was first in a gang when I lived in East Harlem. Its like a family, or the police department, or the priesthood. I was already scared by being in jail. When I was growing up, stealing old ladies pocketbooks was the big thing. For instance, my friend Dusty got stabbed, and he came back from the Bronx really late, and I hung out with him the whole night at the hospital. Nobody would fuck with us. They thought I had control over their leader. Everyone pleaded not-guilty and a trial proceeded the following year in April 1955. From the sweaters we went to a shirt, and from the shirt we finally got to patches. It was two carloads of the fellas, just headed toward the block, coming from Greenpoint. The ones that didnt go in are the ones that died along the way. Youd fire a round in the air, and theyd say, Oh shit, theyre shooting, and theyd run. I never believed in that, so I never did it. Someone please remove this, its a rap music term. When you got caught doing something, they handcuffed you, took you down to the precinct, beat the shit outta ya, then took the information down. There would be a fight set up, and we told you to be there at seven oclock. Puerto Ricans were moving into East Harlem at greater rates as the 1950s progressed. He didnt have to worry about his building getting messed up, because we wouldnt allow that. One of the Red Wings yelled out, Are you the Fordham Baldies? At hearing this, Bernard, Angelo and Ernest approached the vehicle, standing about seven feet from the curb. I carried a .25, then later a 9 mm. First, we need to find some places that we could link to this page, so it gets some visibility. And then it got built up even more. Lots of guys were fucking up, but all I wanted was to have our club, and for everybody to have bikes and go places together and ride. So from being 30 guys with six jackets, we became a thousand just by hooking up with them. The fordam baldies aka belmont baldies aka baldie mob shaved their heads as far back as the 1940's and hung out at a candy store on belmont between 189th and fordham. Wed drink winewere talking now maybe one oclock in the afternoon. You won. the Saracen Lords and the Nobles. It was a sanctuary, this rectangle here. We had a riot on Fulton Street one time, and thats what we did. That freaked me out. Chair (JMH 642) Bionanotechnology, Biochemistry, and Nanomedicine. With that money Id buy wine and cigarettes. We didnt mess with the people from the neighborhood. It would scare people. Dusty Vision TV on Facebook and IG Hit the subscribe and notification (bell) button!BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Wanderers Ducky Boys Lost Boys of The Bronx James HannonI dont not own the rights to any music in this videoDusty Vision TV Instagram: Dusty Vision TVFacebook: Dusty Vision TVIf you would like to be a guest on my program please email me at dustyangeloddcast@gmail.com or DM me on Instagram \"Dusty Vision TV\"Check out my other youtube channel \"Dusty Vision Radio\"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQCpoV0wVvjtGQN5ijpjGKACheck out my music. It was a two-way thing. The year given is the year of the film's release or first season of the series. Baldies wounded.Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War. You had the Dirty Ones up by Graham Avenue. Back in those days, we always had a clubhouse. I think I was under that car for half an hour, until I heard my guys yelling my name. If you want to see somebodys colors, you walk around the back and look at them. Some shotguns, a .30-06, a .30-30. But heres the thing: I was never a member of that gang. But there were girls where I had to kick their ass. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. After a while, if he called the police, then we would be angry at him. He had hair just like mussolini in real life, and I'm the princess of canada although I can't offically back that up with paperwork. As mentioned above, they were a powerful gang and continued to make their presence known up to at least 1959, which by that time had killed two more times. Your chances of going to jail were even worse. We had everything sold by sunrise. Heroin was the drug of choice. The Majestics started in the early 70s. He was so fuckin mad he didnt pay attention, and the guy went around the corner and when Frankie came after him, he was waiting, and hit him with a two-by-fourwhamright across the head. The bullet penetrated his abodmen wall and because of the injury his leg became gangrenous and he had to have his right leg amputated several inches above the knee. You could also take a chimney apartgrab a couple bricks and throw those. With a peculiar frequency, a click of the cable remote shows the Fordham Baldies hanging out at the corner of Fordham Road and Grand Concourse, the foot chase through 1963 central Bronx alleyways . Like one time, I saw it was clear through so I just patched it up, and forgot about it. People were sniffing glue, so the bodegas began to sell glue because it was so popular. From the east side, are We had no real guns, just the ones that we made, which were a joke. It was just that I started hanging out over here more than over at the other side. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. One summer, we got into it with the Spanish gang. There was nothing you could do about it. Because then you cant be in your own neighborhood carrying a pistol. A Retired member described the Duckies, a gang featured in the Movie "The Wanderer": "The Ducky Gang (not just boys) lol. My brothers were making money selling drugs but I didnt want to get into it. You have every type of person in every club. It was just: This is your part of Brooklyn, this is my part of Brooklyn. It got to the point where you couldnt walk outside of a radius of five or ten blocks. From the Jewish girls mostly, not from Catholic girlsnot when I was a kid. You stick a car antenna in it and file down the part that you cock backthe hammer. Back then, Washington Heights neighborhood consisted mainly of Irish and Jews. We protected women. My childrens fatherwe had five children togetherhe and I slept in abandoned cars and buildings, what we called clubhouses. banerjee@fordham.edu. If two women came into a bar, they never paid for a drink and nobody even went over to talk to them. A car can sit on the street two or three days today. Problem-wise, you know, we had a few here and there. DiVincenzo and Caleo were both members of the Baldies but had no criminal record. That was right before the Kennedy assassination. Both Frank and Vincent were packing fully loaded automatic pistols. To Manhattan, then back across the bridge, and once we got to Brooklyn they would just split off to their side and wed keep driving to our side, like it was nothing. The Hunts Point area is the poorest place you can be. I'll always have the memories of those times. bayonets, brass knuckles, and garrison belts before officers swoop at a dance between the Lucky Lords and the Counts. When wed fight with the black guys, it was more or less hit and run. Tvoz | talk 06:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I agree with and understand all the changes. I carried guns for them if we had to go to a rumble or something because at the time the police wouldnt check the girls. And then he died. Now they were even stronger, hardened by. A lot of them I met through fighting with them. The official athletics website for the Fordham University Rams We spent a night one time stripping a whole car completely down to the chassis. That was the end of him. You went home, you needed a couple of stitches, you know, you went to the neighborhood drugstore, you got butterfly stitches. I lived down the block from an armory, and there was a sergeant who would come every morning and buy seven bags of dope. They werent very accurate, either. Basically the territory was divided by the Bronx River that ran through the park. We never went crazy in our neighborhood, and whoever did, they would hear about it from us the next day. His mind was OK, but hed be talking and hed start laughing cause he couldnt help it. Egyptian Dragons". Today, thats what the gangs call itthe Bloods, the Crips, all of them, they call it flagging: I die for my flag. Ill be honest with you, the Spanish guys had a little more guts than the black guys. I think snuff is much worse than cocaine. That was it. I joined the gang so I could go out with a guy. Because we were like brothers. At about 4:55 p.m. after asking around where the Baldies hung out, the Red Wings rolled up on Piggys Candy store, double parking in front. So after a while, he would make an apartment available to us. If you want to have a "See also" section where wiki articles on bklyn etc gang-related movies, etc are handled, I guess you could, but I didn't particularly feel the need so I didn't. A 25 year-old hanger- You get high. They help people out. Walk all the way back to where we live, just to get high, then hustle again to get lunch. Mario felt partially responsible for his brothers death and it was something that troubled him for his entire life. The area between Pleasant and 1st, and blocks between1st and 2nd were predominately Italian. It worked the same way for us when we were in their neighborhood. When you left your house you had to worry about somebody grabbing you and kicking your ass. Dukes, as they were waiting for the "Chaplins" (Chaplains) to arrive. He used to shake when he walked and shit like that. Big deal.. It was an abandoned building. So there wasnt one particular reason. The gangs started separating. Only Chinese guys did opium. It was a crazy neighborhood. We made sure nobody messed with them. When we were on Lee Avenue there was this black guy. People started making money on their own and they forgot about their buddies. We called ourselves the Italian Dukes. I personally didnt believe in jumping people. We did not have a name but the name Duckie Boys did exist. FYI, this list is from The College Finder, 2017 edition now available! THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. The Fordham Rams are the varsity sports teams for Fordham University.Their colors are maroon and white. --rocketrye12 talk/contribs 03:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I moved it to Bronx gangs (mid-twentieth century), please mind your capitalization. Eventually everybody said, Were not going to dance no more. Like I remember coming home and having my sister-in-law crying, and I would walk in the house and make believe I didnt know why. So thats how it happened. Im 50 now, and I havent been back. BRONX, UPTOWN SPADES,HARLEM TURKETTES, SATAN ANGELS, SAVAGE SKULLS, ROYAL JAVILINS, GESTAPO CREW, THE UNIVERSAL ZULU NATION, and THE REAPERS 1ST DIV/MAIN DIV/ AND Juniors. But it wasnt like they asked us to. Baldies didn't shave their heads and in reality wore Ducks Ass hairdoos like The Fonz and were named after bald eagles? In Williamsburg, where we were, it was the Majestics, the Dukes, the Unknown Bikers, South 9 Bikers, Spanish Kings, Devil Rebels, Dirty Ones, and a bunch more. There were no drugs then. They wear leather jackets with a skull on the back and "FB" (Fordham Baldies) on the arm. If you walked by somebodys block, they would chase you, shoot at you, and beat you down if they caught you. That was a typical night. If you made someone look bad, theyd wanna retaliate. Everybody fights to kill. We were always there. It looked like an epidemic had destroyed the place. We used to wrap the gun up with a lot of tape, because those things had a tendency to blow up in your hands. They parked the Caddy and settled in at Section 17 of Orchard Beach which at the time was divided into 27 sections (now it is divided into 13 sections). Set in the Bronx in 1963, the film follows a gang of Italian-American teenagers known as the Wanderers and their ongoing power struggles with rival gangs such as the Baldies and the Wongs. 90K views 13 years ago Gang turf of the Corona Dukes, Arthur Avenue Boys, and the Fordham Baldies. I left in Mean Streets temporarily, but I am pretty sure that the Little Italy it depicted was Manhattan's, and therefore it should be out as well. Yeah, it was nice. It was like one big family. We were just crooks, you know what I mean? We sold it right on the street. When this second son was born, Ernests widow moved to California leaving everyone and everything behind. Thats where the money was. Back then, Id get up in the morning, 7:30 or so, go stand on the corner by the train station, and ask for quarters. Having an Active Minds Chapter in your school can be an important step in changing the conversation about mental health. It was a mixed group, Italians, Blacks and Irish boys who had grown up together. Usually it was chains or sticks; knives and zip guns occasionally. This is how I remember it because I was raised in El Barrio and in Washington Heights from the early 50s and 60s. An ex-Wanderer had this to say: I was a Wanderer! I never jumped anybody. It was also common for someone to be walking down the street, and a car would stop, and a bunch of guys would jump out and beat on him. I guess some guys, you know, went with them. Someone from the car said, you called us punks. Both pistols were then brought out and six shots rang out from both guns, brandished by Ciappetta and Gugliemelli. They. We were coming down Freeman Street to the club, and they started calling us out. It was a handful of us that really made most of the noise. Terror, cross-eyed, 150 pounds, six foot four is the war machine of the Fordham Baldies. I buried three of my brothers because of being in gangs and being involved in drugs and living in the ghetto. A Mother of one of the Lucky Lords was arrested with a gun. Chapter leaders, members, and advisors will be part of the Active Minds Chapter Network upon activation and will . I lost my virginity at like 14. Its even like that now. Me and another Unknown Biker were convicted for it. They had a lotta heart. The problem with the Bronx in 1978 was there were real gangs. Unless you also plan on making an article for the early 20th century, I'd suggest you leave of 'mid'. Theres a lot of people walking around messed up to this day, and a lot of people dead. I knew so many people that everybody would open their doors for me. Even some of the names used are real. You go to parties and see a lot of the same faces. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. It was where I was going to end up, whether I wanted to or not. Before we started getting high on dope, we were sniffing glue. The South 9th Bikers turf was around Broadway, from like where the BQE starts at Havemeyer to what was called Jew Town, where the Hasidics start. They banded together too, and thats the way it went. I told him to open the garbage can, one of those big silver ones, and I went in there, and I told him to put everything on top of me and put the lid on. I remember my first encounter with a drive-by. This time it was a Red Wings invasion. So the guys said, If you dont do it, were gonna strip you. And thats where the war began. Wed see them coming, walking up Bushwick Avenue in a line of like 20 abreast. There were six of them and two of us. When the pill came, everything changed. Naturally, there were a lot of shot-up people. We were trying to imitate them. I've watched the movie The Wanderers each time it's been on, and still get a kick out of how the Ducky gang was supposed to be represented. 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